Cyrus spoke to Cooper about how she was sexually attracted to women before men. “I was attracted to girls way before I ever was attracted to guys,” she started. “When I was like, 11 years old, I used to think that Minnie Mouse was super f*cking hot—which is so good, I ended up on Disney so my chances with Minnie went up by a hundred. Yeah, she was super hot to me. I always thought that the female characters in movies were way hotter than any of the guys. Actually I never really understood what these girls were doing with these like, idiots like, a lot of the time. So that was kind of it and then like, when I was like 11 or 12, my friends were starting to kind of like, tell me what they were doing with guys, and I didn’t really understand it so I got most of my girlfriends to hook up with me. The first time I ever hooked up with anyone was with a girl, two of them. Yeah, [I went past first base.]”

Cyrus reflected candidly on what her romantic type is, saying she needs to date someone who can help ground her. “Oh my god, I actually do kind of need [a calm person],” she said. “I usually end up complaining that they’re boring, but that’s what I need. I need boring. Confident, yes. No, I definitely need like a calming, I need an anchor, I need a weight. But when I was thinking about this yesterday and knowing we were going to have this conversation, I was thinking about someone has to bring more to the table than their plate. They can’t just be like, fill me up all the f*cking time. And I think that’s kind of—that’s a big part of my life, is filling people back up, and that can make me go below zero, below E [empty] so it’s really important that I feel fulfilled and yeah, they have to bring something to the table.”

She explained that being a celebrity and playing more masculine roles in relationships have made her relationships with women work better than hers with men. “Well, I think that’s what [my fame] ended up making female relationships make more sense to me because the role I was in made more sense,” she said. “Because it was like, well, there’s not going to be this weird thing where I was pay for everything. And then I was like, well, that’s just a stereotype too. If I’m going to be with a girl, I’m totally down to be with a boss bitch who’s as successful or more successful than me. That’s cool, too. But I felt like the women I ended up being around, the role fit easier for me because like even in my relationship with men, a lot of the times I kind of hold a more dominant space. So it felt like that made it less uncomfortable and then it felt like I was choosing partners out of anxiety, which is like, so much to do with my therapy journey too because I don’t want to choose who I’m going to be with out of anxiety or fear or stereotype because that’s not anything that I represent or believe in…I need to find a guy who’s confident enough in himself that he’s okay that I am kind of like, masculine and strong and just like, there’s a lot of qualities to me that tend to like, associate more with the male role.”

Being with women works better for Cyrus now because of that, she admitted, although she added that “I’ve just been more experimental. I’ve been with a lot of dudes and chicks. I’ve been with super femme girls, girls that kind of make me feel more femme, and like, I really don’t have a type. The main thing for me is that someone has to bring something that is elevating my life and like, that’s in all my relationships, not just my sexual relationships.”